EPP's Undergraduate Program:
Questions and Answers
What
is Engineering and Public Policy?
EPP is a department in the engineering college (CIT) at
Carnegie Mellon. It’s primarily concerned with problems
that involve the interaction of technology with society...
things like energy and environmental systems, problems involving
the social impacts of computer and communication technologies,
questions of how to design products that are environmentally
friendly, technical issues in national security and so on.
EPP has both undergraduate and graduate programs. This pamphlet
talks mainly about the undergraduate double major programs.
What
are the EPP programs at the undergraduate level?
The most popular is the double major degree program which
lets you get a joint degree between EPP and any of the five
traditional engineering departments (Chemical, Civil, Electrical
and Computer, Mechanical, and Materials Science), or with
Computer Science (SCS). For example, if you choose ECE,
your degree would read “BS in Electrical and Computer
Engineering and Engineering and Public Policy.” About
10% of all the engineering students at Carnegie Mellon do
a double major degree with EPP. There are two other undergraduate
programs: the 3-1-1 program with The Heinz School; and a
minor in Technology and Policy (T&P) for students not
in CIT or SCS (see next to last page of this brochure).
The department also offers a 5th-year Masters for students
who complete an EPP major or T&P minor.
How does the double major program work? How can you
fit in enough courses to cover the EPP part of the degree
and still finish a regular technical major?
We fit the EPP double major into the elective courses in
the traditional single major engineering or CS programs.
Here is a diagram that shows roughly how this works:
| Courses
in the Traditional Major |
Courses
in the EPP Double Major |
| Common
Freshman Year |
Common
Freshman Year |
| Required
Engineering or CS Courses |
Required
Engineering or CS Courses |
| Free Electives |
Epp Projects |
| Technical
Electives |
EPP Technical
Electives |
| Humanities,
Social Science, and Fine Arts Electives |
Social
Analysis Electives |
Four electives
in a traditional major get replaced by EPP technical electives.
Additionally, the Humanities, Social Science and Fine Arts
electives are replaced by Social Analysis electives. Two
EPP project courses and two Probability and Statistics courses
replace two additional electives. The details of the double
major curricula are different in each department. The Carnegie
Mellon undergraduate catalog spells out the course requirements
for each of the six double major programs in tables which
show exactly how the single and double major curricula compare
with each other.
What do the job prospects look like if I do a double major
with Engineering and Public Policy?
Well, if you do a double major with ChemE, CEE, ECE, MechE
or MSE, you end up with a regular accredited engineering
degree so you don’t really lose any options in terms
of a traditional engineering job. The same is true for CS.
In fact, the double major adds some additional flexibility
which you wouldn’t have if you chose to do just the
single major. You can still pursue a traditional technical
career, and indeed more than 80% of our double major students
do just that. But you possess an added set of skills and
perspectives which make you able to do a better job of dealing
with the social and ethical responsibilities that all professionals
face. Employers recognize these skills. Hence, many will
view you as more attractive even for a traditional engineering
or CS job. The EPP department is contacted by firms every
year to recruit EPP graduates because of their satisfaction
with the knowledge and skills acquired by the EPP graduates.
At the same time, because you’ve done the double major
degree, you open up a collection of other options which
are not available to most technical graduates. These include
jobs in policy analysis in federal, state, and local government,
in public policy consulting firms, and in large corporations
which must deal with issues like government regulation,
environmental control, worker health and safety, product
liability and safety, telecommunications policy, green design,
and the social impact of large technological systems. Besides
being interesting areas, there is another reason to think
about getting qualified for jobs in these areas. From time-to-time,
the bottom falls out of the traditional engineering job
market. You could look upon an EPP double major degree as
a way to invest in a bit of future employability insurance.
Do I have to overload to take additional courses
in order
to complete the double major?
No. In most cases the number of courses is exactly the same
as for a single major engineering degree, although it may
involve a few more units (i.e., a couple of 12 unit courses
in place of 9 unit courses). Here is a comparison:
| Number
in Units |
| Engineering
Field |
Single
Major |
Double
Major (with EPP) |
| Chemical
Engineering |
383 |
392 |
| Civil
and Environmental Engineering |
373 |
382 |
| Computer
Science |
360 |
369 |
| Electrical
and Computer Engineering |
360 |
361 |
| Materials
Science and Engineering |
382 |
385 |
| Mechanical
Engineering |
380 |
384 |
What
are EPP technical electives?
Basically there are two kinds of technical electives. First,
there is a set of courses which deal with substantive problems
in technology and public policy. These include information
and telecommunications policy, energy and environmental
issues, manufacturing and quality control, risk analysis
and management, workforce and technical education, and technical
issues in arms control. The second set of courses don’t
address specific technology/policy problems. Instead, they
provide students with basic tools such as operations research
and engineering economics which are valuable for analysis
on a wide range of problems in technology and public policy.
A sample list of the EPP technical electives is provided
in the Carnegie Mellon undergraduate catalog, and a complete
list appears in the specific preregistration packets which
EPP produces shortly before registration each semester.
What are the social analysis requirements?
All EPP double majors must take the course 73-100 Principles
of Economics and one course in decision analysis (19-426
Environmental Decision Making, 88-302 Behavioral Decision
Making, or 88-223 Decision Analysis). The other four social
analysis requirements can be met by drawing from a long
list of approved courses offered by the humanities and social
science units at Carnegie Mellon. EPP has grouped these
courses into subject matter categories such as Organization,
Economics, Interpersonal Processes, Demography, Technology
and Society, Political Analysis and Urban Analysis.
How do project courses work?
Project courses are run jointly between the Department of
Engineering and Public Policy, the Department of Social
and Decision Sciences in H&SS, and The Heinz School.
The typical project course involves approximately 25 students.
The majority are junior or senior engineering students in
EPP, but many are undergraduates in Social and Decision
Sciences and first year Masters students in The Heinz School.
Projects address some real world problem in technology and
public policy, often with an outside client for whom the
work is being done. Students start the semester with a vaguely
defined problem area and various background materials which
they must use to define and shape a workable problem and
then undertake the necessary analysis to solve the problem.
There are usually two faculty advisors and two student managers.
Over the first couple of weeks of a project, the students
work on developing a thorough understanding of the subject
and defining the focus of the work they will do. About a
third of the way into the semester, students make a first
formal presentation at which they present their proposed
research to an outside review panel of experts who represent
different expertise and points of view in the problem field.
The review panel assists the students by providing critical
comments on the way in which they have structured the problem
and by suggesting various resources and information sources.
About two-thirds of the way through the semester, students
make a second presentation to the project review committee
at which they present a progress report and receive steering
suggestions from the review panel. At the end of the semester,
the students prepare a final written project report and
make a final verbal presentation of their findings and conclusions
to the review panel. Of course, it’s impossible for
25 to 35 people to work a single problem all together, so
much of the work in project courses gets done in smaller
working groups of four to eight students. Project courses
serve several important educational functions. First, they
are the one place where students get an opportunity to put
together the various technical and social analysis components
of their education and gain hands-on experience working
on real world problems. Second, project courses provide
valuable opportunity for students to develop and refine
their verbal, oral and presentation skills. In the real
world of daily engineering practice, these skills are every
bit as important for success as the more traditional mathematical
and quantitative analytical skills.
Aren’t project courses time consuming?
Yes, they certainly are, and they’re hard work. But
they’re also exciting, challenging and very educational.
Year after year as we talk with graduating seniors and alumni,
we are told that project courses are the most valued part
of the entire curriculum.
With the complicated requirements for the double
major degree, how will I keep things straight?
EPP has faculty appointed with each of the five traditional
engineering departments. These faculties serve as student
advisors and, with the assistance of the EPP departmental
office, maintain careful records for all students. Each
semester, approximately a week before preregistration, EPP
publishes a student advisory brochure which lists all major
requirements and identifies all of the various elective
courses which are available for EPP students in the coming
semester. With these advisory services, students have little
trouble keeping abreast of where they stand in meeting the
requirements with the double degree. Indeed in several larger
departments, students have commented that the individual
advising they get from their EPP advisor makes preregistration
less of a hassle than it is for single major students.
Are there any reasons why I shouldn’t do a double
major EPP degree?
Yes, there are several. First, the EPP double degree is
a very challenging academic program. If you think you may
have trouble getting through just a single major undergraduate
program, EPP is probably not a good idea for you. Second,
if you are interested in other special degree programs,
such as the biomedical engineering program, you’ll
probably have your hands full and will want to plan carefully.
The EPP double major is compatible with many of the minors,
but plan early. Mark Kieler can help you with this. Lastly,
at the undergraduate level, most engineering students want
and need a broad range of skills. However, some decide from
the outset that they are most interested in focusing on
the development of advanced technical skills and want to
devote all of their available elective courses to this objective.
Such students usually choose not to do the EPP degree.
What is the minor in Technology and Policy?
EPP offers a T&P minor for students outside of CIT and
SCS that consists of six courses, totaling 51 units. These
are the EPP sophomore seminar; the two required social analysis
electives; two EPP technical electives; and one project
course. The T&P minor is not available to engineering
students. Double counting of course requirements is possible.
Contact the EPP department for details.
Are there undergraduate programs like EPP at other
schools?
Ours is the only one. Carnegie Mellon started its undergraduate
program in this area in 1971 with the help of a grant from
the Sloan Foundation. The people at Sloan were so delighted
with what Carnegie Mellon was developing that they proceeded
to make a number of grants to other universities in order
to try to stimulate similar programs. Several universities
such as Cornell University and Penn State offer a large
number of very good undergraduate courses and programs in
the area of Science, Technology, and Society but does not
offer a formal undergraduate degree program for engineers.
Several universities including Stanford and MIT have graduate
departments or programs. One of the reasons that so few
universities have succeeded in developing stable programs
in the area of technology and public policy is that most
universities have very great difficulty working across department
and disciplinary boundaries. For various historical and
institutional reasons, Carnegie Mellon is a university where
interdisciplinary research can be done easily and naturally.
How can I learn more about EPP?
There are several ways to learn more. Read the section in
the undergraduate catalog on EPP. Come talk with us. The
EPP department offices are in Baker Hall 129. Our telephone
number is 412-268-2670. We have faculty advisors in all
the engineering departments. Here is a list:
Chemical
Engineering:
Mark Kieler, 126C Baker Hall, x8-3645, mk08@andrew.cmu.edu
Civil and Environmental Engineering:
Peter Adams, 113 Porter Hall, x8-5624, petera@andrew.cmu.edu
Cliff Davidson, 123E Porter Hall, x8-2951, cliff@cmu.edu
Scott Matthews, 118L Porter Hall, x8-6218, hsm@cmu.edu
Mitchell Small, 123D Porter Hall, x8-8782, ms35@andrew.cmu.edu
Electrical and Computer Engineering:
Marija Ilic, B25 Porter Hall, x8-9520, milic@ece.cmu.edu
Jon Peha, 129B Baker Hall, x8-7126, peha@cmu.edu
Adrian Perrig, B204 Hamerschlag Hall, x8-2242,
adrian@ece.cmu.edu
Mechanical Engineering:
Allen Robinson, 312 Scaife Hall, x8-3657, alr@andrew.cmu.edu
Ed Rubin, 128A Baker Hall, x8-5897, rubin@cmu.edu
Materials Science and Engineering:
Mark Kieler, 126C Baker Hall, x8-3645, mk08@andrew.cmu.edu
General, Computer Science, and the T&P minor:
Mark Kieler, 126C Baker Hall, x8-3645, mk08@andrew.cmu.edu
Talk with EPP
students on the EPP SAC (Student Advisory Council). You
can get their phone numbers or set up a meeting by calling
the EPP departmental office. The threeunit> EPP Sophomore
Seminar is a good course to take if you would like to get
a feel for EPP before you sign up for a double major or
the T&P minor.
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